puerto-rican-korean:

arandomkoreanperson:

puerto-rican-korean:

arandomkoreanperson:

puerto-rican-korean:

arandomkoreanperson:

thisisnotkorea:

puerto-rican-korean:

Shall we?

No, I hope you all fall in the middle of the Pacific ocean

Please don’t come to Korea. We don’t want you. You aren’t Korean. You don’t get the culture. Why don’t you instead take your idols and go disappear onto an island or something

Why don’t you go fuck yourself? Why don’t you take yourself on an island and fuck yourself? You don’t know the half of me, so don’t be quick to judge. I’m speaking on behalf of all kpop/korean fans that do not live in Korea. We like the culture and the people and the music. Not just the idols. Don’t like it? Stop hating and fuck off.

AHAHAHAHAHA?? Really? What about the culture do you know? Do you know the language?? Or the history of Korea. Why kpop even exists. The imperialism that brought it to Korea. About Japan imperialism. The different eras. The dynasties. Even the major battles. Turtle ships. The history of any of the monuments in gyeongju? What is chusok. What does one do jesa for? Ancestor worship. The roles of buddhism and confucionism.

We aren’t our idols. We aren’t kpop. We don’t want you ppl here. Go take your idols and leave. They’ve done enough damage to Korea as is. Fans like you are ppl we don’t need to have in Korea. So what about Korean culture do you like? What ppl? What music? Do you know about traditional Korean music? Or how about Trot?

And Korea fans? Don’t make me laugh. Most of them are fetishizing fucks. Same with kpop fans. The lot of you ppl are so problematic it’s not even worth starting to explain why.

Ok listen dumbass. Obviously I don’t know it completely but I’m learning. You know what fuck it I don’t need to explain shit to you. You’re just fucking r*tarded and like to step on people when they’re happy. I can tell. Are you from Korea? Hating on korea? Hm. Shame On you sir. You’re very ignorant and don’t know shit. And FYI you’re making it seem as if everyone that isn’t from Korea shouldn’t be listening to korean music. If that’s so, stop listening to American music.

Ahahahahahahahahahahhaa. First of all, nice ableist slur. Second of all, good that you’re learning. Third of all, there still is no want for all kpop fans to be in South Korea because of how problematic they are and how much fucked up shit the whole industry and fandom has done including racist fetishization shit. And yes, I am ignorant of course. I don’t know anything about Korean culture. I didn’t grow up with it or the language or anything. I don’t care about you specifically. That mentality is a problem to begin with. You’re perpetuating it.

And I have not done any of the sort. I am saying that most of korean and kpop fans are problematic. And that they assume what is in kpop “culture” (and I use that word really loosely here) as to be the norm in Korea which it isn’t anything close to. You may be a “good fan” (you aren’t proving yourself to be btw) but that doesn’t mean the general is and so having all kpop fans coming and flooding korea is actually a huge fucking issue that you don’t seem to understand.

P.S. you do know that American music is black music right? So by your logic, unless you are black, you cannot listen to any music out of the states b/c they are all based on blues and jazz and soul and hip hop which is black music that has been taken and warped and appropriated into western music now.

p.s.s. what is Korean music anyway? Kpop is just a facet. There’s traditional and trot to just name a few. Nobody cares abt those tho because “omg oppa!!!”

I just love how you took this post literally. Like it really cracks me up I’m literally laughing. I mean yeah sure it’s a thought to go to Korea, DOESN’T MEAN WE’D ACTUALLY GO. Stupid. And btw DO YOU NOT LIVE IN AMERICA?! If you do, you should no that not all American music is ‘black music’. Not only is that racist, but stupid. I mean come on have you never heard of pop? Rap? COUNTRY? I’ve never heard Black Country music. If you have please send a link! And js uhhhhh white people can’t make black music…… That’s stupid. They’d be considered racist. I mean I seriously can’t believe you said that all American music is black music. That just proved to me you clearly don’t know a thing about anything. Now that that is proved, I no longer have to listen to you bye bye and ps I’ll go to fucking Korea if I fucking want to. :)

Actually what they’re saying is that all music in America (i.e. - American music that doesn’t have its roots in Western European classical tradition) is largely based on traditions either borrowed from indigenous people, the First Nations, or by Africans brought over as slaves.

The banjo that is coveted in country music is actually a West African instrument that became appropriated. Prior to hearing African music, European-Americans generally wrote in small frames of rhythms, we’re talking one to MAYBE four or eight bar refrains, and when they first heard African music it didn’t make sense because it was a) outside Western diatonicism and b) the rhythm ‘didn’t make sense’. 

What it turned out is that Africans used what we now call the ‘blue note’ which is where you bend pitch to semitones and have that very graceful ‘falling sound’ that is popular with every soulful crooner who wails out a ballad on the radio nowadays. And those ‘nonsensical rhythms’ were 16, 20, 32 bar patterns that layered over extraordinarily long periods of time and was at a much higher level than previously experienced by European-Americans.

Rock’n’roll by all means was pirated by Elvis (a notorious racist). Hound Dog, arguably one of the songs that propelled Elvis to fame, was written by Willa Mae “Big Mama” Thornton. This was often the case with black rock ‘n roll musicians of the mid 20th century. 

Musical theater is derived a lot from minstrel shows who’s only purpose was for white actors to dress up in blackface, generally be racist, and act in caricatures of the ‘quaint people’ and imitate their styles of music because although they appreciated Black American music, and wanted to listen to it in a theater / performance setting, they didn’t want to actually give them the time of day. Minstrel Shows is the older sibling of Vaudeville and vernacular music, which gives way to the pop and musical theater of today.

I could go on and on but as you can see, the person before you has a valid point about all forms of music that is native to America being derivative from First Nation people or Black Americans brought through slavery. They’re not saying that nobody except Black Americans can listen to the radio, they’re saying that don’t judge an entire culture based on a specific genre of music with a very specific purpose within a large and inclusive culture that has a variety of other facets.

In other words: Stop fetishizing.